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ServiceNow Inc (NOW) news: ServiceNow Management Discusses Q4 2013 ...

Question-and-Answer Session


Operator


[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Jennifer Lowe from Morgan Stanley.


Jennifer Swanson Lowe – Morgan Stanley, Research Division


I wanted to drill a little bit more on sort of how you’re thinking about your own application development efforts with the incremental investments in RD, versus the aspirations for Share and really getting the partner and your customer community developing application. If you think about the 3- to 5-year outyear outlook for platform as a service, how much of that do you think is productization that ServiceNow really wants to do outside of ITSM versus the goal for others to do that development on your platform as a service? How are you balancing those relative constituencies?


Frank Slootman


Jen, it’s Frank. We definitely are going to build certain applications ourselves, really with a focus on priming the pump and showing the marketplace what’s possible. And so we’re going into areas that we think that are high leverage to demonstrate the power of the platform. That said, that if you go out 3, 4, 5 years, we expect the vast, vast majority of application availability to come from our community: customers, partners, third-party software providers. And the #1 ask last year from our users conference was to build the sharing infrastructure, which is what we have now done, and we’re going to be maturing that and then making that generally available come April of this year. So we’re really pinning our strategy on community and partners to build the availability of apps on the platform.


Jennifer Swanson Lowe – Morgan Stanley, Research Division


And just one more for me. If you look at the upsell in the quarter, and that’s been pretty consistently strong for a number of quarters now, how much of that at this point is coming from customers starting to expand usage of ServiceNow into areas outside of the IT department, versus increasing their footprint within — of either ITSM or other IT-oriented applications within the IT department?


Frank Slootman


It’s a good question and I wish I had a very definitive answer to your question. But it’s — in general, it’s both. A lot of the — most of our expansion outside of IT comes from upsells. Typically in the original, the transactions are — tend to be very much dominated by ITSM-centric deployments. We have a ton of evidence that the platform is getting traction, through our own operational metrics, as well as the service that you guys have been doing. So it’s very evident that the community is super active in this regard, but sort of the general answer is it’s coming from both areas in large volumes.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Ray Lenschow from Barclays.


David Wang – Barclays Capital, Research Division


It’s David Wang on for Raimo. So a quick question is just help reassure some of the investors who are less familiar with what happened. Could you perhaps talk about the recent security [ph] departure and just what happened there?


Frank Slootman


Yes, that was not a major event for the company. We — I think that we’ve hired Arne early on in 2011, and he was very instrumental and helpful in transitioning our cloud infrastructure to what it eventually became. But because of the success that we’ve achieved over the last several years in that process, he essentially worked himself out of a job, and we really consolidated and organized into our permanent form. And it sort of became sort of a natural conclusion for both himself as well as the company that this was the way forward for us. So it’s really not something that was unexpected at all. We were just looking for a good way to make that happen both for him, as well as for the company.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Michael Turits from Raymond James.


Michael Turits – Raymond James Associates, Inc., Research Division


Michael Turits. Can you, Mike or Frank, walk through the impacts of the 2 different sets of pricing changes and how that’s going on platform to — per user and I think maybe towards per app and then to the service bundles? I don’t know if you covered this at all before I jumped on but anything you can tell us would be helpful.


Frank Slootman


Yes, it’s Frank. I can make some general comments on the stub [ph]. In general, it’s — it is a change that our marketplace is getting used to, so it’s still early going in that process. But as you can see from our numbers, we’re coming off an extraordinarily strong quarter. So we’re obviously being very successful in running through the business with these new pricing models. In general, we’re getting stronger monetization of the various aspects of our product portfolio. But all that said, we’re still in the middle of sort of consolidating, stabilizing, and the marketplace in general is sort of getting used to the new way of doing things. And we expect that’s going to take some time, but I think we’re — we’ve been very good at — in transacting business in the last several quarters. So it’s certainly helping us do what we want to do out there.


Michael Turits – Raymond James Associates, Inc., Research Division


Yes. If I could get one more, the — obviously, it’s great to see what looks like an upping of the amount of sales hats that you’re going to add. As far as I know, there was going to be somewhat of a shift, a little bit more focus on new logos as opposed to penetration of accounts in the coming year. Maybe can you talk a little bit about that, how that’s going and what you’re doing in terms of sales motion and the type of people you’re hiring.


Frank Slootman


Well, prior to — it’s Frank. And prior to 2013, I mean, our sales force was almost exclusively focused on new logos. And coming into ’13, we changed that and we now really have a balanced model that focuses on new logos. And then we have a whole sales team that looks off — looks after our existing accounts. And you can see from the strong upsells all year long that, that model is working very well for us. So we’re not going to sort of shift the balance back now towards new logos because the SaaS business becomes increasingly dependent on existing book of business and revenue portfolio, so we’re not — we’re certainly not going to take our eye off that ball. But we’re literally expanding as fast as we know how to do it in a safe way. You can always add more people, but you can only split territories so quickly. It takes people 9 months, 12 months to scale. So you cannot be ripping territories apart in every 3 months because after a while, you get into the threshing zone and it becomes unproductive to add headcount even faster than what we’re already doing.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Brent Thill from UBS.


Brent Thill – UBS Investment Bank, Research Division


Just as it relates to the platform, I know it’s tough to break out. But when you look at 2013 and going into ’14, is there kind of a way to help us to measure [indiscernible] there?


Frank Slootman


You broke up a little bit in asking that question, I think you’re asking about how to think about the platform. We struggle quite a bit internally to try to respond to general interest in the capital markets on this topic. It’s really hard to do with real authority, but there’s a few things that I will tell you. We think that any kind of metric of a financial nature that we produce is not going to be, number one, very accurate because there’s many variables in the transacting of business that influence it. Number two, it’s going to be understated, also for a whole bunch of separate reasons. But the important thing for you all to realize is this is not how we manage our business. This is not how our customers think about the business. They see ServiceNow as one platform. There’s all kinds of applications running off of them, some of them are standard, some of them are custom, some of them are IT, some of them are non-IT, some of them sort of bridge the middle in there somewhere. So that attempt to separate one set of use cases from another, we can — it’s very difficult to do with some form of credibility. So we really urge people that are following the company to really look at our marketplace in terms of what are our top line metrics, what is our penetration, what is our saturation because it’s really one business. It is not multiple lines of business that are executing [ph] in separate swim lanes from one another. It’s something that we will be emphasizing a lot, that we’ve tried to respond various ways to the interest there is, and try to delineate that, that we find that this is becoming less and less relevant to the way that we run our business and the way our customers view our business.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Abhey Lamba from Mizuho Securities.


Abhey Lamba – Mizuho Securities USA Inc., Research Division


Mike, the revenue — subscription revenue upside was pretty material this quarter, as well as the previous quarter. Given your revenue model, is that the linearity or was there any true-ups in the quarter? Any color on that?


Michael P. Scarpelli


There were no true-ups. That was just the way the contracts were signed in quarters and the way they got recognized.


Abhey Lamba – Mizuho Securities USA Inc., Research Division


Got it. And can you talk a little bit about the momentum in international spaces you touched upon, I think it’s one of your areas of investment? What type of investments are you making and which areas, which regions offer the most potential and when can they start becoming meaningful contributors to your bookings?


Michael P. Scarpelli


Sure. So there’s 2 ways that we invest internationally. One is putting data centers where we know there’s going to be data sovereignty issues, and Brazil is one of those that we started making investments last year with opening our first data center. Our second data center — remember, we pair our data centers. Our second data center is being opened in Q1, and then we’re opening a pair of data centers in Asia Pacific, one in Singapore and one in Hong Kong. And so we’re doing a lot of hiring in Mexico, in Brazil, as well as APJ, in Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan and other areas over there. As well in Europe, we’re going deeper in some of the other countries in Europe where we never had a presence before. And we’re looking at some of the Eastern Bloc countries as well right now.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Jason Maynard from Wells Fargo.


Jason Maynard – Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division


A question for you, Frank. As you look at 2014, do you have a goal or target in terms of how much business will be either influenced or, I don’t want to say actually on paper with partners, but really kind of being driven by some of your system integrators, whether that’s the boutiques or the global SIs?


Frank Slootman


Yes, we don’t have a specific goal, Jason, in regards to that. We obviously want our partners to become more instrumental in our business. I think we’ve made huge strides during 2013. KPMG has been a long-standing, really a leader in our business that jumped in without any reservation. Accenture is now coming on very strong. They influence some very large transactions during the quarter. What we really want to see is where the system integrators are, short of not following us around, but that we get an opportunity to follow them around. In other words, that they are starting to become more leaders of transactions rather than catalyst or influencers of transactions, which has sort of been the pattern that we’ve had. All that is very beneficial and good for the business, but we want to get it to the next level. And if there’s a goal for 2014, that’s really what we want to see. And we have evidence in a bunch of pockets where this is taking place, but we want to see it broad-based.


Jason Maynard – Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division


How much of share do you think will help contribute to that goal in terms of getting these guys to actually be able to productize, if you will, some of their custom-built implementation work?


Frank Slootman


Well, what they — what we really want them to do is proactively take us into their core business. So far what’s been happening, they’ve been following us around. And if we had an overlap between our efforts and they have presence in those accounts, they were all too happy to participate in those opportunities, right? But we obviously want that situation to invert. Where we’re going to be following them into their core business where we don’t have any presence yet. So that’s our goal for 2014.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Steve Ashley from ServiceNow (sic) [Robert W. Baird].


Matt Lemenager – Robert W. Baird Co. Incorporated, Research Division


This is Matt Lemenager on for Steve. Just a quick one, on the — with the new pricing, the ITSM mix, how much has been looked at as platinum versus gold versus silver, and how that adoption is going along?


Michael P. Scarpelli


I apologize — it’s Mike Scarpelli. I actually don’t have that mix, and that’s not something we’ve really looked at internally. But I will say there are a number of large deals that we’ve been quoting with diamonds lately, which is our highest level SKU.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg from RBC Capital Markets.


Matthew Hedberg – RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division


I have a question about Performance Analytics. Is there a way to think about the ASP uplift that product is having and maybe where you’re seeing adoption?


Frank Slootman


Yes, we — this is Frank. We’ve actually been super pleased with the traction we have with Performance Analytics during Q4. It’s only 2 quarters in, and we largely exceeded our own plans and expectations on what that product is contributing in terms of ACV. So I think we’re kicking off that trend line very favorably. It’s just a product that can draft our overall go-to-market cadence really, really well. So we’re super pleased with the way that’s going.


Matthew Hedberg – RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division


That’s great. And then maybe for Mike, billings growth outpaced revenue growth this quarter, which is great to see. Assuming you can grow revenue in the low 50% range per your guidance, how should we think about billings growth relative to revenue for the full year?


Michael P. Scarpelli


You have to remember that billings doesn’t necessarily flow directly with revenue, because it depends upon the contract terms that you signed, and it depends upon, a, how are you billing your backlog, your renewals, as you get your renewals, when those are coming up for renewal. And so it’s very hard to give an overall longer-term billings guidance at this time because you will have lumpiness in it. But we feel very confident that billings will be up this quarter from Q4.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Richard Davis from Canaccord.


Richard H. Davis – Canaccord Genuity, Research Division


Just kind of a tactical question, I guess, for Frank. You spoke at that technology business management conference. Where do you guys see your product ending and the stuff that the guys at that conference begin, and how do you think about the evolution of that kind of effectively, I guess, cost accounting on steroids?


Frank Slootman


Yes, Richard, we do believe that the financial dimension is important, which is why we have a partnership with the company that you mentioned. And it’s certainly very possible that the company will make incremental efforts in that area. We are very rich on operating data, and the opportunity to map that operating data to financial data is something that the marketplace really likes. And of course, the IT community is really keen on that. But it is equally applicable to all the other service domains in the enterprise, right? Whether it deals with procurement or facilities or HR. So it’s something that is important to us.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Walter Pritchard from Citigroup.


Walter H. Pritchard – Citigroup Inc, Research Division


Frank and Mike, I’m wondering if you could talk about — I think we saw you do similar things last year in terms of ramping up sales hiring pretty aggressively coming into the new year and it played out pretty well. I’m wondering if you could compare where you’re putting the resources this year and how that might be different than where you added the resources back about a year ago when you did a similar thing.


Michael P. Scarpelli


Yes, well, we’re still adding in North America. We think there is still a lot of runway in front of us to continue to split territories in North America. So you’ll see a large percent going there. But overall, there’s a lot of new markets we’re going into, Asia Pacific in particular, and there are still a lot of countries in Europe where we just don’t have the bandwidth to cover all of the accounts that are there. So it’s going to be pretty much distributed.


Frank Slootman


And one thing — it’s Frank, one thing that I would add to that, Walter, is that in spite of the fact that we’ve added an enormous number of headcount during 2013 and a lot of that headcount has gone into markets that were relatively cold, in other words, were not developed and we’re pretty much starting from scratch, our sales productivity Q4-over-Q4 actually went up. So we view that as an extremely good sign that we’re able to expand our sales organization, even though we’re sending a lot of those people into very cold territories, and still be able to drive sales productivity the way that we have. So that is the reason why we’re confident about it, then we’re going to continue to do it.


Michael P. Scarpelli


So about 50% of those adds are going in the Americas, and the balance are going internationally.


Walter H. Pritchard – Citigroup Inc, Research Division


And Mike, is — in terms of the low end of the market, I think under 40 seats or there’s a threshold there that you’re not addressing yourselves, is that continuing into 2014? And then also, are you starting to pursue anything vertical from a sales perspective? Or is it way too early to think about that type of a go-to-market?


Frank Slootman


Yes. In terms of the lower end — it’s Frank. In terms of the lower end of the market, I think we have previously either talked about or hinted at the fact that we’re coming out with a lower end product that really sort of goes below that threshold that you mentioned. We are in test with that product at this moment in time, it’s in the hands of a few customer, and it’s going to take some time for us to sort of get that ready for prime time where we’re really confident to get more aggressive about that. But we’re definitely intent of having ServiceNow really sort of drill down into much larger volumes of accounts but obviously, much smaller institutions. In terms of verticalization, I mean, we — we’re not quite ready because our marketplace is incredibly horizontal. For us, it doesn’t pay yet to have a real vertical orientation to our business. But a lot of our partners and system integrators, they do have that vertical orientation. So we map against their organization. So in that way, we do pick up some of that verticalization in a go-to-market approach. I would not exclude from the realm of possibilities as we get bigger and better in terms of the broader enterprise deployments that, that kind of an orientation will become a reality for us.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Harry Heyer from Crédit Suisse.


Harris Heyer


I apologize in advance if you’ve already given an answer to this. I was just hoping you could walk me through kind of your traction on some of your newer products beyond platforms like Discovery, Orchestration, Runbook Automation. I’m just curious to see kind of what you’re seeing in terms of adoption from your installed base.


Michael P. Scarpelli


We — on Discovery and Orchestration, Orchestration is a product that we’re really seeing in a lot of our upsells or on our existing accounts that were buying Orchestration. And as Frank mentioned, about 80% of our business comes from the core ITSM, and that 20% has come from CreateNow, the platform Discovery and Orchestration. We think those will be drivers in the future of our business and will become a bigger percent in the future.


Frank Slootman


I think Orchestration has dramatically increased. And by the way, having a sales — part of our sales organization focused on existing accounts has really helped that part of the business, because that’s typically the follow-on side of sales that those guys focus on.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Kirk Materne from Evercore.


Stewart Materne – Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division


Just a little bit along the same lines as the sales questions before. I guess, Frank, are you thinking about sort of specialist sales around platform or when you think about things like HR, service automation. I guess does it make sense to start having salespeople with specialization along maybe more of an application route, or is your opportunity still just too broad right now to start worrying about that?


Frank Slootman


Well, our opportunity’s really broad, but we are talking about having specializations in some of the areas that you mentioned, especially HR. Not so much because the applications are that different. It’s because you have to be able to speak the language. They have a different terminology, and we just have to look and feel a little bit more like HR people than IT people. But the applications themselves, technically, it’s all service management, right? Whether you’re talking about IT or facilities or HR. It is amazing when you strip away the veneers, these things are doing very, very similar things. It’s just in the interaction with your core audience. They just talk differently about the artifacts and constructs of their business. And that’s why we’re sort of in the middle of thinking about having sort of centers of excellence, people that we can use for those kind of projects. Because we’ve noticed that we’re good at talking to IT people, we’re not as good as talking to people in other service domains.


Stewart Materne – Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division


And I guess, just around HR service automation in particular. I guess since you guys have launched that, have you seen more HR-oriented consulting firms or system integrators looking to partner with you all to maybe provide that level of, I guess, interaction with the customers? Is that picked up since you guys have sort of planted a stake in the ground on that front?


Frank Slootman


Yes, it actually has. And it’s really interesting for us that we’re starting to trigger a whole new set of partners that are specific to that space. And they’re coming to us because they’re finding that we are crossing over into their areas and sort of these are conversations are new to us. These are not firms that we normally would talk to. So we view this as a very positive development in our business.


Stewart Materne – Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division


And then just last one for me really quickly. Mike, just with the cash balance, where it is right now, I assume MA would be the primary use. I guess, are you guys going to be looking maybe more so than you were even last year? I’m sure you’re always looking. I guess, should we, I guess, expect perhaps a little bit more activity on the MA front this year?


Frank Slootman


Yes, it’s Frank. We’re much more organized now in terms of systematically evaluating categories and targets within the categories that we’re looking at. We assigned a Chief Strategy Officer, somebody that actually is part of our executive staff and reports directly to me, with a team of people. And that’s most of what they are engaged and involved in. It’s not that we’re — the money is not burning a hole in our pockets, but we have a much stronger strategic posture these days than what we’ve had in the past. We know where we’re going, and we’re aggressively evaluating targets. That said, it’s not easy for us to convince ourselves to move. We’re looking for very strong talent and technology that’ll be a good fit to our plans.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Tim Klasell from Northland Securities.


Tim Klasell – Northland Capital Markets, Research Division


I just have one question. When you’re in the platform sales and customers are looking at that solution, is it primarily for new solutions that they’re thinking about building, or migrating over existing solutions on some of the legacy platforms?


Frank Slootman


It’s interesting, that’s a very interesting question. Obviously, both of those things are going on. But oftentimes, people are looking at migrating applications that have lived in Lotus Notes for literally 2 decades and moving them over to ServiceNow. SharePoint, a whole plethora of web tools, stuff that’s been lying around, and consolidating all these sprawled application portfolios and bringing them on to ServiceNow. That’s how a lot of our CIO customers view ServiceNow, as a service platform for the entire enterprise where they can consolidate and really sanction application development that historically has been extraordinarily fragmented. So it’s a good question. A lot of the stuff is also brand new, stuff that has lived on email and spreadsheets. And somebody finally woke up and said, “You know what, we’re much better off implementing this on a real recordkeeping workflow platform rather than continue to do this in a messaging type of system.” So that is what’s driving that end of our business.


Tim Klasell – Northland Capital Markets, Research Division


Okay. Then a quick follow-on. Who are the other solutions that your customers are looking at when they’re evaluating your solution?


Frank Slootman


On the platform end of it?


Unknown Analyst


Yes.


Frank Slootman


Yes, it’s actually — the one — obviously, one name that we probably see more than most others is Force.com from Salesforce. I think we’re typically the 2 flavors that gets considered for those kind of projects, though that’s the most common, and when you sort of look at it in terms of things that are similar in concept.


Operator


And the next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood from Susquehanna International Group.


James Derrick Wood – Susquehanna Financial Group, LLLP, Research Division


We’ve been hearing about an increase in priority, transitioning off of old ITSM systems. I’m just curious if there’s any color or data you can give with respect to what you’re hearing around legacy systems end of life-ing and kind of what you’re seeing in the pipeline for ’14.


Frank Slootman


There’s a general sense, because we now have well over 2,000 enterprises and then 400 of them are Global 2000, there’s a huge amount of experience in the marketplace, there’s a huge amount of success, there’s a strong ecosystem. So the level of confidence that has been built in the marketplace to go and undertake these transitions and these kind of implementations is much greater. And that is part of the critical mass that’s been building momentum behind our business. So it gets easier because of the history that we have under our belt. Yes, that said, there’s — these are really ERP scale enterprise-type projects. It’s not the sort of thing that you sort of do on a Saturday afternoon. They are very serious undertakings. They have to turn off legacy systems, systems that they may not have touched or don’t even have people anymore that understand them. So these are very serious projects, and that’s — if anything slows us down, it’s the general friction of turning off old systems and then launching brand new systems and managing through that transition. But as you can see from our revenue trajectory over the last 8 years, it’s going pretty quick.


James Derrick Wood – Susquehanna Financial Group, LLLP, Research Division


Great. And you guys have a lot more business coming up for renewal this year. I mean, how should we think about that? Do you guys anticipate any change in contract structure versus the original engagements? And then during renewals, is this usually a time where you have upsell, cross-sell engagement as well?


Michael P. Scarpelli


Yes. So we have contracts coming up for renewal constantly. And at that time, it’s generally — it’s usually a discussion around an upsell. But that is not the only driving factor of an upsell. Our sales reps who cover accounts are constantly looking at the usage of our customers and going back in and upselling those customers. So yes, there — we do anticipate that 2014 will be another very good year of upsells, but it’s not necessarily just driven by the renewals. In terms of the structure of the contracts, I don’t really see the structure in terms of the terms of contracts changing dramatically.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Greg McDowell from JMP Securities.


Greg McDowell – JMP Securities LLC, Research Division


High-level question first. Based on last year’s performance and 2014 guidance, I was wondering if you have increased confidence in sort of your multiyear revenue trajectory in reaching $1 billion of revenue in FY ’16?


Michael P. Scarpelli


Yes.


Frank Slootman


Yes, that would be a yes for me as well. I think we’re coming off an exceptionally strong quarter. We’re feeling extremely good about our business just because of the aggregate amount of experience that’s been built up. Our infrastructure has been rock solid. We’ve been pushing five nines of availability, so we feel we’re in really, really good position to continue to hire and scale. We sort of have everything going for us at this point.


Greg McDowell – JMP Securities LLC, Research Division


Great, and one quick follow-up. The number of customers with ACV over 1 million, it looks like that almost doubled from 2012 and 2013. And I was wondering, as you look at the pipeline and how things are shaping up, could we come close to doubling again in 2014, the number of customers with ACV over 1 million?


Michael P. Scarpelli


Yes. A, we have a very healthy pipeline of new deals with — that are north of $1 million. But remember, we continue to upsell our customers. And as we upsell our customers, they go over $1 million. And we have a lot of customers that are as well in that kind of $750,000 to $1 million range that will go over $1 million next year just with upsell.


Operator


The next question comes from the line of Brad Sills from Maxim Group.


Bradley H. Sills – Maxim Group LLC, Research Division


Just one on the EMEA revenue mix has been gapping up nicely quarter-to-quarter now for several quarters. Can you just comment on performance in certain regions? Are you surprised at the upside in certain countries or regions within EMEA?


Frank Slootman


You’re correct. I mean, EMEA, over the last 3 quarters or so has been strong, has been consistent. And as you said, it’s gapping up to the upside so we’re very pleased with the sales execution. One market where we’re finally turning the corner is Germany. We’ve had a complete reset there. And as you know, in Europe, because of how long it takes to bring people in and out, it takes a lot longer to turn territories around over there. But because Germany is such a dominant marketplace over there, and we feel that we’re really on the right track and Q4 was really good for them as well. So that can really become a major engine for us. So we’re doing well in the U.K. That’s always been an exceptionally strong market for us. France has been a great market for us. We have a really, really strong team there. We have branched out into the rest of Southern Europe because we typically go where the Global 2000 accounts are hanging out. That’s really how we deploy our resources. So we’re pleased with the performance of EMEA in 2013 and especially in Q4.


Bradley H. Sills – Maxim Group LLC, Research Division


Great, and then just one last one. You mentioned some of the products that performed particularly well with the upsell. Are there any user groups within IT, whether it’s support, ops or development that you’re finding more traction in the upsell side of the business?


Frank Slootman


We typically — when it comes to IT, it’s really the IT operations side of the house is our center of gravity. Within IT operations, you have a specific ITSM constituency obviously, and all those people are involved with ServiceNow. But we typically tree up all the way to the Head of Operations and the CIO. Most CIOs these days think of ServiceNow as their ERP. They view these as 10-, 15-year type of decisions. So it’s very broad based and it does go all the way to the top of the house. So we’re not selling in tiny pockets in IT. If you had that impression of us, that is not how it works. These are very broad decisions for IT organizations.


Operator


Ladies and gentlemen, that is all the time we have for questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Michael Scarpelli for closing remarks.


Michael P. Scarpelli


Thank you. As a reminder, a replay of this call will be available as a webcast in the Investors section of our website, as well as through the dial-in instructions contained in today’s earnings release. Thanks for joining us today. This concludes our call, and we look forward to our next update in April, following the close of the first quarter.


Operator


Thank you very much, Michael. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.



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